After complete withdrawal from the NASCAR debut of transfer, the situation for the German fans is more than bad. Who wants to see what, must obtain either "gray" sources, or look completely illegal streams.
To get straight to the beginning: it looks ugly this year from when it comes to NASCAR broadcasts. The problem starts ever to debut at the show this year will be nothing more by NASCAR. It has also taken the highlight shows from the program, so that fans who do not want to look for streams in the network, the last easy opportunity was taken to see at least a little NASCAR. But there are some legal and some semi-legal options.
Who on the NASCAR really can not do without and have the money, which should define a subscription to Sky Sports. This is only possible if you have a satellite dish and if you climb to a Dreambox and an expensive Sky subscription. A lot about this opportunity can be found here and here in the forum of digitalfernsehen.de. There is a German middleman , which also provides maps and receiver. But as I said, this is not cheap. For the Dreambox you will probably need to lie down € 500, for the subscription fees in addition to mediation one more time more than 300 €. And of course you get only the U.S. / UK comment. English so they can be.
There is still a Czech station, which should show the NASCAR, but I do not know if that is not how AB Moteurs, Sky Italia, encrypted. Thus, the possibility of the race has been exhausted to see them live.
If we are in the "gray area". First, the law: It is forbidden to offer a stream. This is true even if you see a p2p programs such as TVU and TV Ants program, because it is indeed redistributed. In streams that are available on websites, it looks different. For the viewing of streams is not prohibited. In p2p programs on TV area, it is that I personally know of no case where a user has taken recourse, because he has a TV program from the U.S. or where otherwise seen. In terms of the NASCAR this year, that there is no legal brokers, making the thing that is somewhat different. At least you do not need to fear that a rights holder has to defend his license here.
On the other hand, there are providers of links that lead to p2p and other streams, especially under heavy pressure. Whoever offers the NFL, NHL, NBA or British soccer, has received in recent weeks and months, usually unpleasant mail. This means that many well-known addresses will be from last year, maybe 2009 is not there anymore.
The most prominent example is unfortunately SpeedTV. The one could look at the past two years have been very reliable at TVU, but in October 2008, the station disappeared. And will no longer appear, at least not among the known names. Also known forums are under pressure and looking for ways to survive as one. Really annoying is that SpeedTV has disappeared, showing up on Chase all training sessions, the quality of the NW Cup & Truck Series race and the race. Then you will probably first have to forego this year.
There is a Stream TV forums, which provide for a payment stream. The experiences of some users in the network show that it works fairly reliably. For 40 dollars a year you get usually comes all races, other times they do not. To which is always the danger that such a forum is made tight. Then the money is gone.
Unfortunately, NASCAR offers from license no legal reasons to streams. Even if they did, they would probably set up an IP-block countries. This means that all the IPs that are not from the United States, are excluded. This is now done this with offerings such as hulu.com. You can use this IP block but resolved relatively easily, in which one sets up a VPN. Here is a log on a U.S. server, and the questions are directed to a U.S. IP address on. Since there is no live stream offering NASCAR, you have to worry about it much thought. Why is NASCAR does not offer a paid streaming for countries in which they could not sell the rights, remains a mystery to me. I think it would be quite a few (myself included) and the $ 100 more for a stable, good quality and would spend mainly legal stream.
The last alternative is that you get to the race a day trying later on torrent networks. The legal position on this is probably obvious to everyone. Racing itself is tricky to get out of the underground, and even if so far as I know, no problems here has been for downloaders, this does not mean that it is therefore legal.
Since several known sources seem to falter at the moment, you have to watch every week, well, if and where there could be a transfer. Experience has shown that the Daytona 500 and can be found in the course of a year the situation will improve in most cases.
It still angry and sad that tens of thousands of NASCAR fans now have to make the arduous and difficult search for a possible transfer in the network.
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Why is NASCAR does not offer a live stream is really a mystery to me. That would be a first step to expand, right? Oh yes: a great play on words in the text, I must say. I think you know what I mean. ;)
The section of the bezgl Stream TV Forum, I think honestly a bit too negatively worded. I honestly do not know of yet there was not satisfied, there still has to be in 2008 in absolute terms, each Cup race live.
More reliability is not ....
To what extent should it be relevant whether in Germany, an American station via p2p live looks, or selbige long after the broadcast of a live show American concern via torrents? It's still not even gray, light gray that is at least, if not white.
@ Nascar. The cheapest HERE if you want to look up with Nascar TV. To a French pay-TV provider of the 13 Hot Bird (sends encrypted in Viaccess). Since AB is vertretten motor sports and the annual Orange card (BisTV Panorama) costs about 180 € will also need a Viaccess module costs about 55 €.
Whether gray or white or maybe black, which is really annoying: you can back this year, the NASCAR race track is not reasonably live! In every race again to seek new, I think is pointless and annoying to me. The race for a few days later to download is only 'ne crutch, because I really want to see it live and not just a few days later, when I already know the result :-(.
Conclusion for me: the 2009 season, I'll just follow the edge, because this constant was rumgesuche and download my last year already annoying!
Thanks for this exhaustive overview of current opportunities.
This looks really not good.
A big THANK YOU!
@ Nona:
It is and remains a copyright violation, which could leave the owners also follow from the United States out. If the argument can also download an mp3 would be punishable not only because the artist is based in France and sells his own stuff. The copyright does not because countries and sales limits.
When asked why NASCAR does not follow the example of other providers and the race makes it accessible as a stream, should bear in mind that something like this not just as times and by the way can be broken through the fence, but may take may years.
(1) Rights
Who owns the rights to the online marketing of the series? Which relate to geographic regions, this? What other rights holders (usually TV stations) would be much worse off by captive streams in their position?
(2) production
Who created the images on the spot? Anyone who cuts them together? Who provides commentary, moderation and, if single player? Who makes the inserts, who are the interviews?
(3) Delivery & costs
How do you manage that potential customers reliably and at every race, regardless of their location with 1.5 - to provide 2 GB of data? (At 3.5 ~ 4.5 hours and 1 Mbit / s) How much do you pay for the infrastructure companies (CDNs)?
(4) cost / benefit analysis
Even if you have answered all the questions from 1-3, is still the question of how many people feel personally concerned by such an offer to pay the price they are willing, and if these costs to the following from 1-3 bear is capable of.
Me it is no surprise that NASCAR would rather deal with even the smallest focused TV stations to complete, as a matter of entering the market. It's much better to be able to go into the next negotiations with the misty figures of the last TV-utilization period, as the crystal clear stream must disclose figures.
@ NoteMe:
to 1: unclear, but as far as I know, lie in NASCAR. All videos are available on the net by NASCAR and are also found on their site.
to 2: All TV pictures are delivered with inboard and HD produced by NASCAR Media. The only station of its own cameras in the box, etc.
to 3 & 4: Should not be a problem of cost for NASCAR, but of course it needs to refinance. Theoretically, only costs incurred by the stream to the network which are believed to be negligible. The infrastructure that is behind the subscription-management is, but something else. If you offer internationally, you must also provide the support, etc. However - CNBC streams, for example, the complete program on the net. Can be any customer who has ne credit card. Support is just in English.
tja because I only have dsl light is nascar this year, died for me: (
Premiere is so simplistic and dirt of the "very good talks blah blah" Ulich and his mendacity alla I am also on bag!
Yes, with streaming is the sone thing. On the one hand, it would have been to pack the Nascar, Indycar itself has so ne time taken directly from the Indy-side (or maybe still Machts?) And it's free. On the other hand, of course, NASCAR has become much more popular (there is significantly more accesses to the streams) as the Indycar there are also a lot more races. But I think if NASCAR wanted, and possibly as a subscription offering or so (maybe payper race, so $ 2-5) could be adopted for that already. At Indy there was also just the world feed without commentary, which is better than nothing. This is the advantage of the cost is minimal, since the signal is simply that one has on the net anyway Streams. If you then still is clever and it makes a kind of P2P Steam (like tvu etc), there is no bandwidth problem.
Therefore, in my opinion, if they wanted to Nascar could do quite easily. But it is also the nunmal the U.S. is the destination for the Nascar is when transmitter is for the race outside the U.S. interested in a TV which of course sold, but otherwise the NASCAR in the "foreign" is actually relatively unimportant.
I do not think NASCAR will officially offer a purchasable Internet stream, so long as they sold rights to the local and national TV rights to earn enough money.
As far as I know, the rights are also currently sold per country. This means that the buyer can use his land exclusively and it does not matter whether it shows the race in the tradional TV or internet stream. If this were not so, then AB Moteurs would have to shut down the stream in the last year during the NASCAR race.
NASCAR would have to provide for a separate stream that is not only the technical infrastructure and national broadcasting license with lock out, but look even at the customer management (registration, billing) that received no "unauthorized" access can. The whole system must be financed only by subscription fees, since to do advertising, you would need a separate Internet-directing.
If the stream is also available in countries in which a station has acquired rights, then the sender would certainly complain if the subscription to NASCAR is directly effective than their own TV service. The other way the offer is not enough to generate revenue if it is for a large part of the audience appears to be expensive.
@ Henning:
Lock out users from countries that have seen nothing that is very simple. This goes beyond the IP blocks. Each country has its own IP range, because you keep only one of the Web filtering needs. I could make even without great cost in this blog. NASCAR streams yes even the NW Series. This is, however, about the infrastructure of ESPN. But I see no reason why that should not go in the Cup race. The problem is probably that the NASCAR fans would have shut out their own, as indeed the rights from FOX, TNT, ESPN / ABC are distributed and thank FOX would slip if the odds just because the NASCAR own streams.
First of all many thanks for the great entries for NASCAR 09 Don!
Time on the topic with respect to its own stream of NASCAR. Support is also void somewhere - so the offer from country to country. Anyone who wants to be something, anyway must know English. All others are unlucky.
The problem is rather what would be exactly the amount of money that you can take, go on to win or to go on as many happy?
Where such "League Pass" cars was on NBA and NHL work well. The NBA playoffs so probably does not show. Price / performance value, but in both - if you take NEN Season subscription. What a pity not the NASCAR is so advanced.
@ Don:
The mp3-comparison is strong and is applicable with all due respect do not really now. We are talking about a program that is not in a few countries free-to-air over the airwaves. Whether I'm somewhere in the world build an antenna that is good enough to receive something from God knows where, or other technical means, such as streams einsetze to tap off any relay, is it for me as the recipient's to same. That the original Ausstrahler not like it, because he would rather be in every single market the ruble for the roll may indeed be beautiful and good (although it is also vulnerable because the funding for the host and Ausstrahler already in advertising and sponsorship begins, not when the optional marketing rights), which makes the thing does not automatically and universally "illegal", and certainly not across national borders in foreign jurisdictions. Otherwise, one could still maintain a commitment to herbeikonstruieren ears when I dwelling on the border realize that my Dutch neighbors the radio is too loud ...
With regard to p2p and other similar methods: the only really vulnerable points here are primarily the one that the original feed is pure, and the secondary instance that provides the infrastructure for it. Intermediate relays as we give, finally, at best, on a fragmented part of feed, and then only as non-hourly side effect of one's own use (which is legal in all cases), and strong lack of funds combined with extremely easy access - how many people will probably know not at all that they pass on the packets seen for example at TVU program to others if they start with one careless click a feed already? Because even more criminal and moral depravity is given if you spit chewing gum onto the sidewalk ...